Discussion on Maura's case

hydemi · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 114 Location: winchester, mass.

thanks KR for the link to today's Caledonian Record.

If these remains are Mr Sypek from Feb 2005 his story could be a new chapter in a new edition of Not Without Peril--Maura's favorite book.

I had posted last week about the condition of remains found in such circumstances in North Country and we get an immediate finding (if it is Sypek) of a person who disappeared a year after Maura.
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mcsmom · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 447

peripeteia wrote:

Citigirl · Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Massachusetts

bobfather99 · Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: NW Indiana

Peripeteia,

I would be happy to volunteer my services to do the tailpipe test.
I already tried it once unofficially(no stopwatch)

I think it would be near impossible to get it EXACT, but I can get a good idea of what was going on on 2/9/04, with the tailpipe, at least.

Good to see you and Citigirl posting!!!!

Bob
....the thinking man's bartender.......

hydemi · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 114 Location: winchester, mass.

I don't understand Citigirl's reply last night.

This is all very sad, and no one appreciates the devastating loss suffered by the Murray family more than I.

I have raised the question of remains being found in the last week, and the stories in Not Without Peril are very much the same kind of story as Sypek's assuming it is he who was found in Franconia this week.

Don't we all want to learn what happened to Maura whatever that is?

The Howe book was Maura's favorite book--that is a fact.

Alas it is probably going to be some kind of accidental discovery of this sort that leads to finding Maura in North Country if that is where she is.
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mcsmom · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 447

Citigirl,
I think you misunderstood hydemi's post. We can easily jump to the wrong conclusions on the forum. Just as we could easily be led in the wrong directions from the media and LE about Maura. It is important to keep in mind the person, who they really are.

hydemi works hard to keep Maura's name out there, not only on this forum, but others as well.

Citigirl · Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Massachusetts

Maybe I did jump to the wrong conclusion and misunderstanding to what Hydemi was trying to say in his/her posting. And I do apologize for that Hydemi.

pikenh · Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 2

Anne · Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 202 Location: Vermont

I am sorry and sadenned for the loss of your uncle. There seems to be no explanation for his sudden murder. Gossip says he was the victim of personal reprisal. Is this true? If it is or not, I am one who does not believe in the death penalty, who is truly pure enough to chose if one lives or dies?

Not Without Peril, is just one of many items Maura carried in her vehicle that certain night! Hydemi, we can all be a bit oversensitive here, just ask Pike!! LOL

Citigirl, I had to come back in on that myself..LOL..

hydemi · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 114 Location: winchester, mass.

I never thought there was anything but a wee bit of misunderstanding with Citigirl and thanked her just now in a private message for clearing up the matter of my post about Sypek's remains if indeed it is he up there near Franconia & the Howe book parallels.

Relevance to Maura? probably none except the difficulty of finding lost or otherwise missing folks in the vastness of North Country.

I hope not to become one of these lost folks on my semi annual trip up for fishing to the Magalloway river system this coming weekend.

Anyway it was just coincidence that the discovery of remains possibly Sypek's occurred immediately after I had posted last week about what happens to the remains of missing people in North Country.

We are overdue for some real news or better news concerning Maura.
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Shack · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 295

pikenh, Every time I go L.P.Road...I see the last name on a mailbox....and wonder why and who....Anne said "personal reprisal" ...that is as good a way of saying it that I can think of....the rumors as you stated, as in Maura's disappearance.... do tend to run amuck. One situation "a woman"the other an "inebriated runaway/suicide"..?..The victims "asked for it"...boulderdash....!!
Have a few questions for you...you wrote that the investigators were on it. How many Haverhill PD officers were on the force last September...? How many are there now...? How many investigators included....
then and now.....I am surprised that you and yours, being local tax payers are not apprised more often as to an update...other than what you stated.....I thought that it was just us, as being "flat landers" who
seemingly are not deserving enough for an occasional "we're working on it"....Members of my family was/is part of your "supportive community"....
Glad that you have joined us ....strength in numbers and spirit......for justice....

mcsmom · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 447

pikenh,
Sorry about your uncle, and welcome to the forum.

bobfather99 · Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: NW Indiana

Awhile back someone posted about the wine box, and what it would take to burst it. I plan to test this on Monday, weather permitting.

Im going to do a drop test, and a burst test using weights from a weight set. Ill let you all know what I find out!!

Just have another question regarding the spilled wine. How much was on the ground/in the car??? Is it at all possible that a bad guy used the box as a weapon, I mean did he hit Maura in the head/neck with it?? This might explain why some was spilled out(the box burst open)

Just throwing that out there....

Bob(Mental Millionaire)

Advocate · Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 25 Location: North Carolina

bobfather -- will be interesting to hear what your experimental efforts come up with. Both my stepsons have been working recently for a local beer/wine distributorship, and they handle a couple of brands of those boxed wines all the time re loading, unloading, stacking, etc. With Maura's circumstances in mind, I asked them just a few days ago how durable the box containers are. They told me that the external cardboard boxes are not especially durable, but that the internal plastic containers are very strong -- apparently they've had at least one experience of "drop kicking" (their term) a boxed wine around the loading dock, the cardboard ended up being pretty well disintegrated, but the wine remained intact in the plastic and the spigot was undamaged.

This has made me wonder more about the spilled wine at the accident scene. It seems like if the wine had been opened at some point, so that the spigot was no longer sealed, then the spigot might have been jarred back open if the box flew against the dash or some other part of the car during a hard jolt when hitting the snowbank. If the spigot was still sealed closed, however, then it seems like only a hard impact against something sharp would work to puncture that internal plastic part of the container, and I can't think of anything sharp enough that would have been in the car that the box could hit during the impact.

peripeteia · Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 140 Location: Nova Scotia

bobfather:

Good luck with the experiment with the towel in the tailpipe....

Regarding the wine box, I can see that the box exploded if it had been compressed against something during the car accident, however, the bottom or the top would likely have opened. As far as the box being torn, this seems rather impossible. It has been my experience that these are difficult to open, and at a party I've seen several times, men opening the box using a knife, and if unfamiliar with this type of spigot, it is rather difficult to open the box, especially if it is your first time in practicing such a maneuver.....I just cannot see how the box was torn, good luck with this experiement

Welcome pikenh, I'm so sorry about what happened to your uncle, I hope some information will be forcoming to give you and law enforcement some answers.....
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